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Operating Systems and Porting / Re: [NEWS] Debian

« on: December 29, 2020, 10:28:35 am »

Okay, then I'm waiting for your publication, let me know how to install it, the command you need or where to download it and tell me if I have to delete at this point, the current kernel 5.9.6 that does not work even if I think say yes at this point. I know the procedure on Fedora for deleting kernels, I always delete the kernel entry and the Kernel modules entry and he deletes the kernel in question. In case it's different let me know this too ... Thanks.
So you think it's just a page size problem, it would be amazing that a simple thing like this would affect the Kernel so badly that it crashes. This perhaps would also mean that the other distros could settle down the same way at this point ... Hopefully, I trust you Pocock, you're all of us ...

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Operating Systems and Porting / Re: [NEWS] Debian

« on: December 29, 2020, 09:49:53 am »

Xlinder no I didn't give that command, I should try to do it and see what you say but apart from that, in my opinion the underlying problem is in the Kernel after version 5.6. I also tried to install Ubuntu, up to version 5.4 of the Kernel, with Ubuntu 20.0.4, the internal gpu mode works and with AMD Navi 10, I tried to enable the card by inserting the usual file in xorg.conf, as reported in the guide on wiki and that made me enable Navi 10 on Fedora, but the operating system at that point doesn't start anymore. In any case, before inserting this file on Xorg, I updated Ubuntu to the latest version or the 20.10 which has in Kernel 5.8 and coincidentally, even in AST mode and without enabling the Navi 10, the computer just after it loads the system, yes it crashes irreversibly and must be shut down manually, just like with kernels from 5.7 onwards on Fedora. So in my opinion there is an underlying problem of the Kernel from version 5.7 onwards on Power that goes into constant conflict with the Navi 10 and that no one has yet unearthed for our misfortune. It is not possible that all distros that exceed version 5.6 of the Kernel suddenly stop working! You have to work on this first thing, you have to eliminate this damn bug that causes conflict between the drivers of Navi 10 and the new files contained by the Kernel 5.7 onwards on Power! Now I want to try to disassemble the graphics card and start Ubuntu version 20.10, do you want to see that if I remove the graphics card it starts? We'll see...

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Operating Systems and Porting / Re: [NEWS] Debian

« on: December 28, 2020, 10:29:47 am »

Guys then update, I was able to understand the problem of the failure to download the kernel 5.9, pocock forgot to tell me that first you had to run another command to be able to prepare the download of the package, I do not know the steps unfortunately, not being familiar with Debian. In any case I found a site that gave a mini-guide for the commands to do, including what I posted pocock, after as the last command also performs the installation of firmware for this new Kernel. At reboot I also put the file on usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d, to enable the amd gpu but at reboot unfortunately gives me an error and tells me that it can not load the gpu... I send you the photos of both the error for the gpu and the error that has always given me at boot Debian but this time I speak of Debian itself and its Kernel. In fact I've noticed that I always get error loading Kernel modules, both with the old one that is installed by default, and with this new one. I don't know if it's related to the problem but it's a fact that it always gives it and it's very strange considering that it does it right after the installation and then without me touching or modifying anything, I've noticed since the first boot, that this error does it always. In fact I noticed that in normal operation with kernel 4.19, sometimes the video disappears and returns to server mode for example. This Debian seems to have its own underlying problems, regardless of the 5.9 kernel in my opinion ...I attach pictures of what gives me as errors both kernel and gpu...

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GPU Compute / Accelerators / Re: nVidia official proprietary and open source code for POWER

« on: December 28, 2020, 02:50:47 am »

Too bad, I thought that at least those GPUs could be used in full.  I did not know they also did this type of operations or that they could use a GPU only for one purpose, inhibiting everything else, great good rip off I would say ...

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Operating Systems and Porting / Re: [NEWS] Debian

« on: December 27, 2020, 05:01:07 am »

I didn't know they were doing this kind of settings for operating system 3D management now, thanks for the MPC info.  In any case I managed to get it to work normally with a trick.  If you quit with ctrl alt F2 and then re-enter with startx, disable 3D handling and go back to 2D and you can use it.  But my problem is that the command that Pocock gave me doesn't work.  When I give it it gives me an error telling me that it is not valid for APT :: Default-Release since this release is not available in the sources ... I tried to look for a site where I could directly download Kernel and Kernel modules to install it manually but I cannot  find it ... How can I solve?

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Operating Systems and Porting / Re: [NEWS] Debian

« on: December 25, 2020, 02:51:56 pm »

No Borley the problem is not Navi 10 but with the Blackbird video output ... As soon as you finish installing and restart the operating system you just installed, initially you have not put anything yet and therefore it works by default with the video output of the card mother and the problem is right at the beginning then. Fedora or Ubuntu never gave me this problem as soon as they were installed, only Debian is giving all these problems and the Navi GPU I haven't even used yet. The problem is fundamental and I do not honestly understand what could be wrong, I downloaded the 10.7 version which has recently come out so the most updated ... Also another absurd thing is that I do not authenticate the root for the super user and this is incredible honestly because during the installation I have reported username and password as requested ... I don't understand honestly why this distro is so problematic, I just don't understand ... I'm very disappointed!

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Operating Systems and Porting / Re: [NEWS] Debian

« on: December 25, 2020, 08:29:39 am »

guys then this Debian is a nightmare for me. Not only does it work terrible after installation, it jerks and is unusable but it doesn't even let me log in as root. When I try to authenticate with SU and after entering the password, it tells me that the authentication has failed and it always does even if I try to change the password. For me this Debian is totally unusable ...

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Operating Systems and Porting / Re: [NEWS] Debian

« on: December 21, 2020, 01:12:19 pm »

Xlinder sorry, but I have to do the ismod command after installing the 5.9.6 kernel right? I don't think that at the moment with 4.19 there can be support for recent AMD GPUs like my Navi 10 ... The problem is that at the moment it jerks and I don't know if I can make it go well, let's see if I have to do everything as a server and so I should exit with ctrl, alt, F2 to return to server mode and from there type ismod and possibly also install the kernel or I can do it from desktop ...

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Operating Systems and Porting / Re: [NEWS] Debian

« on: December 21, 2020, 12:58:21 am »

Hi Pocock, thanks for reporting, I'll do as you tell me.  The thing I am seeing for now is that for me Debian runs very badly at the moment, it jerks ... Obviously at the moment I have to use it with Blackbird video output but the resolution is still low so I don't know if it depends on the graphics server or  other...

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Operating Systems and Porting / Re: [NEWS] Debian

« on: December 20, 2020, 02:40:57 pm »

done well but with the key it does not start the installation from petit boot, whether I copy the iso image directly as I download it, or if I put the ISO file through a procedure with Shell.  Eventually I managed to install it by putting both.  With the DVD I started the installation and with the stick I did the installation once I entered ... I honestly don't understand this strange behavior of Debian.  Now I am installing gnome and the optical drive works fine ... Anyway, apart from these oddities, do you or someone else know by chance where to download the 5.9.6 kernel for Debian Power?  Thanks

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Operating Systems and Porting / Re: [NEWS] Debian

« on: December 20, 2020, 12:14:23 pm »

Hi Xlinder, yes I understand that from the operating system it works smoothly, I'm talking about when you have to install Debian from the beginning, when you copy to the optical disc the ISO image downloaded from the official Debian website and start the installation process. At a certain point, after choosing the language and the keyboard type, the installer tells me that it doesn't see the optical disc drive and I don't understand why... Everyone sees it in a direct way and I don't understand why the Debian installer is the only one who doesn't see it...

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Operating Systems and Porting / Re: [NEWS] Debian

« on: December 20, 2020, 04:38:07 am »

guys good morning, sorry but why does Debian not recognize the optical disc player that the other distributions recognize automatically immediately?  I am obviously talking about our Power version because in the X86 version this problem does not exist ... Even Ubuntu that derives from Debian does not have this problem ... What should be done to make it recognize it, is there any driver or is there any procedure to be performed?  Thanks

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Blackbird / Re: [amdgpu] [Fiji] Fedora 32 Linux kernel 5.7.x crashes

« on: December 19, 2020, 07:39:51 am »

I understand, of course you are not giving us good news on the Fedora front at this point, the main problem is that we have tried to talk to all the main supporters, from the Fedora team to Raptor but nobody can give us a solution ... Honestly I find  this absolutely amazing thing ... That said, this Kernel you say needs to be installed or is it on the current 10.6 version of Debian?  I would like to try installing 10.6 and see how it behaves with Navi 10 ...

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Blackbird / Re: [amdgpu] [Fiji] Fedora 32 Linux kernel 5.7.x crashes

« on: December 18, 2020, 04:17:42 pm »

Hi Pocock, so do you think this damn bug that has plagued this Kernel with Navi for months will finally be fixed? Another question, you who are Debian experts, do you think that with Debian 11 there will be full support and just put the classic Xorg setting to enable Navi 10 and it will work on Debian natively too?

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GPU Compute / Accelerators / Re: nVidia official proprietary and open source code for POWER

« on: December 18, 2020, 01:14:45 pm »

The new Quadro RTX 6000 with Ampere architecture has just come out, what I can't understand from the site is the support they give to the Power architecture. The site shows that there are drivers only for the Tesla series but then if you look in the list, the RTX 6000 and 8000 also come out under Tesla which instead should be part of the Quadro series. So I can't figure out if those Power drivers are suitable for running the Quadro series which is a little less expensive than the Tesla series ...