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Applications and Porting / Proton on Power

« on: November 27, 2021, 04:24:55 am »

Hello everyone, lately I have read some articles about the great development that the Proton application is having on Linux and I have also read that it is completely open source and therefore accessible. I searched first in the various sections of the forum but it seems to me that I have not yet found anything about it. Do you have any news if this Proton will also come to us on Power?

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Operating Systems and Porting / Re: [NEWS] Debian 11 is out

« on: November 26, 2021, 01:11:58 am »

Oops I didn't know anything about this friend Daniel, I'm sorry about this thing, I didn't know anything about this story ... I hope you can fix it as soon as possible given the work you do for Debian, especially for our Power!

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General CPU Discussion / The point about Power 10 currently

« on: November 25, 2021, 01:41:09 pm »

Friends of the Power community, I think the time has come to take stock of the Power 10 situation because in my opinion at the moment there is a bit too much impatience combined with general confusion. So currently, if you have read everything correctly, it is clear that Power 10 was launched by IBM but only and exclusively for the 1080 series servers and we all know that they are the high-end ones. Furthermore, it has been repeatedly observed that the processors currently in use by these servers, obviously are the high-end ones, ie with a minimum of 15 cores (16 but one is turned off if necessary) and a maximum of 30 cores. Now we all know well that these numbers, also linked to the range to which these servers belong, clearly makes us understand that these are CPUs clearly of the type to understand, direct successors of MONZA and LAGRANGE of Power 9 and therefore high-end. It is perfectly obvious that currently, even if the firmware were completely free, Raptor would not be able to produce a P10 based motherboard on the spot because the costs would obviously be prohibitive. So the reasons that today cannot lead to a production of P10-based motherboards are both the current lack of free firmware but also the lack of medium and low-range solutions, equivalent to our current Sforza P9. So I would say that instead of continuing to ask Raptor when and if it will produce P10 based cards, we should concentrate on waiting for the release of the mid and low range solutions in the meantime, which I don't think will arrive shortly and later, once they start. to exit, then also see if IBM will start as I think, to release the firmware sources completely open and ask Raptor what programs they will have at that point on P10. Currently I repeat, there is nothing feasible because even if the firmware were already free, the prices are prohibitive and there are no CPU offers equivalent to Sforza which is what we all use on our Power systems for desktop. and small home servers ... Let's be patient and see what will come out maybe already in 2022 by IBM on the medium and low range and then we will start to have everything clearer!

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Applications and Porting / Re: Chromium and Ungoogled Chromium DNF Repository

« on: November 22, 2021, 03:24:26 pm »

Classic obviously no one says that Forefox's problem depends on you indeed, we just have to thank you for the great work you do and we know that your job is not to develop it. I'm just saying that at the moment Chromium is the only good and well-functioning browser on Power and I think we have to do everything to carry it forward, even unofficially as we did from version 85 to version 87. Only now we are stopped because the friend TLE doesn't even have time to get down to getting the source code. When he finds the time I hope he will show me too how he does it so I can see if I can learn the procedure and thus contribute to the development of Chromium on Power ...

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General Hardware Discussion / Re: 2u Blackbird Build with 18 cores?!

« on: November 22, 2021, 01:20:55 am »

A good way to test the CPU can be to do some compilations and also be able to establish the number of cores or thread to use, I would have done some tests in the tel sense I think ...

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GPU Compute / Accelerators / Re: Blackbird Radeon RX580

« on: November 19, 2021, 02:59:21 pm »

Succeeded, thanks again to friend MPC for his great advice, basically my mistake was simply the missing grub update command. I didn't do it simply because I believed that the Grub-Customizer application itself did both save and update the grub but I was wrong. Now I will compile 5.15 for Ubuntu as well. Thanks again MPC and also friend Classic Has for their valuable advice.

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Operating Systems and Porting / Re: [NEWS] Fedora 35 is out folks

« on: November 19, 2021, 01:05:46 am »

Perfect thanks, I'm waiting for your news and if you can teach me how to get the sources I will be deeply grateful, the Raptor procedure no longer works, I think because of the cursed Google block on Power ... Fedora for now I stopped using it, as soon as they fix it then I reassemble it, for now Ubuntu and a little Debian

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Operating Systems and Porting / Re: [NEWS] Debian 11 is out

« on: November 18, 2021, 03:11:00 pm »

Hi Daniel, I don't understand your message to be honest, I personally have described my current experience with Debian, it being understood that I mainly use Fedora and Ubuntu and lately, given the unresolved Fedora issues, I have focused on Ubuntu which I see going better than the others and also having more software available and more repositories also available than Debian itself. As for the 4k pages, I now compile kernels only with 4k pages, but I don't know what these patches you have developed about them are. Having said that I have seen that unfortunately Bullsye has problems with starting on the GPU and in fact it often freezes at startup, turns off the GPU and does not complete the loading of the Kernel, so it is clear that there is some problem, perhaps in the latest firmware I don't know, the fact is that there is unfortunately ...

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Operating Systems and Porting / Re: [NEWS] Fedora 35 is out folks

« on: November 18, 2021, 12:09:18 pm »

I would also add compared to Ubuntu which instead is almost perfect with the Gnome 40, nothing to do with Fedora. It seems incredible to me that despite graphene and patches installed, it hasn't changed one iota, it's slow and jerky as hell, just like the previous 34. Real crap really, I'm deeply disappointed by Fedora, but just a lot!
Friend TLE you never let me know anything about that talk about the Chromium springs ...

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GPU Compute / Accelerators / Re: Blackbird Radeon RX580

« on: November 17, 2021, 04:45:42 pm »

Yes MPC, I saved the settings and the only thing I didn't do was to update the grub but I didn't do it just because I thought that this application was also in charge of updating the grub, that's why not the 'I did. So I have to try to update the grub and restart, hoping it works ... As soon as I try I update you ...

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Operating Systems and Porting / Re: [NEWS] Debian 11 is out

« on: November 17, 2021, 04:42:47 pm »

friend Borley, unfortunately now Aspeed is no longer suitable with the passage of time and as the Linux distros advance, so you need a good GPU. I took the 5700 to have a long-lasting GPU over the years, I don't have to play but in any case I want a performing GPU that allows me to do everything and so when I created my buld Power system, I immediately got this GPU. Unfortunately, however, on Debian 11 there are boot problems often I'm noticing, I have the impression that the fault is with this current firmware because the previous one from Buster did not and neither does the Ubuntu one.

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Operating Systems and Porting / Re: [NEWS] Fedora 35 is out folks

« on: November 17, 2021, 01:11:04 am »

Vmlinuz yes I understand what you say, KDE I know it well, I installed it long ago on Ubuntu and I use it in combination with the Gnome session for a hybrid that I really like.  The problem in my opinion, however, is only one, too similar to Windows as a graphical interface and for those who want to deviate from Windows it is not good.  I want something different and that represents Linux and in the field Gnome is the one that does it better than all the others so that's why it pisses me off its untreated operation on Fedora, especially since it has been reported several times to the Fedora team and more today they did nothing!

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Operating Systems and Porting / Re: [NEWS] Fedora 35 is out folks

« on: November 16, 2021, 02:54:04 pm »

Aside from free software or not, Fedora is to blame for not curating the Power version. Ubuntu with Gnome 40 is something else entirely, continuing at this rate I will remove Fedora from my hard disks because it is shameful!

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GPU Compute / Accelerators / Re: Blackbird Radeon RX580

« on: November 15, 2021, 03:16:25 pm »

In any case, looking closer at the application I used, I saw that the line where you can put lines was empty and I inserted that line you told me MPC, so I think I have not replaced anything at the end. Then I repeat I don't know how that application works, I should better understand how to use it and how to add that line correctly ...

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Applications and Porting / Re: Chromium and Ungoogled Chromium DNF Repository

« on: November 14, 2021, 04:55:49 pm »

I just tried to carry out this procedure but it can no longer be used because some parts are now missing, I had to imagine it in reality ... I would like to understand at this point what procedure uses for example @TLE, to obtain now as now the Chromium code to be able to then fill in ... Now you have to get the unofficial one of course ...
As for the development of Firefox or Chromium, from what I currently see is that Firefox continues not to be at the height of the situation, some sites do not load them, for that famous lack of jit, while instead Chromium still loads everything and well, so to date unfortunately, Chromium is the only really good browser on Power whether we like it or not! We must therefore do something so that there is a development or one or the other but real, otherwise we risk no longer having a decent browser for our systems ... I don't understand why Google has made this move, Chromium is an open source project therefore free and developable if I'm not mistaken so why suddenly boycott our version? What have we done to Google? It seems absurd to me ... We still need a browser that is up to par and today Firefox is still not, there is little to do!