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Operating Systems and Porting / Re: Firefox Status

« on: January 04, 2020, 06:22:25 pm »

With those hints I managed to get it working, two main points:
- Clang doesn't compile it right yet, I had to force using gcc/g++
- Not sure about the selection of a different linker, it did not make any apparent difference.

Yes, clang doesn't work properly. It's possible that gold has been fixed, but I'd still stick to GNU ld (bfd).

I opted to fetch apt-get source firefox and build it with an updated mozconfig.in that sets:
export CC=/usr/bin/gcc
export CXX=/usr/bin/g++
Also had to limit threads to 24, I ran out of RAM on 32 threads.

Successfully running mainline firefox installed through a selfmade deb-package.

I just do -j24 for makes myself, but largely because I want a few threads so I can play Descent. How much RAM is in your system? This machine has 32GB.

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User Zone / Re: Graphics Card install

« on: January 02, 2020, 11:54:04 am »

After all that, what did you do to fix it?

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Operating Systems and Porting / Re: Firefox Status

« on: January 01, 2020, 10:21:53 pm »

No, Firefox should work and build fine. I haven't done a build against central in a couple weeks, but I'm typing this in Firefox 71 on Fedora 31 on a Talos II, so I know at minimum that mozilla-release works. What does your mozconfig look like? The ones I use are here:

https://www.talospace.com/2019/12/firefox-71-on-power.html

(which uses the same ones as ...)

https://www.talospace.com/2019/05/firefox-67-on-power.html

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Applications and Porting / Re: MAME for Power

« on: December 23, 2019, 09:24:28 pm »

q66 is the Void Power maintainer, so.

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Applications and Porting / Re: MAME for Power

« on: December 22, 2019, 10:08:06 pm »

https://www.talospace.com/2018/12/no-love-for-powerpc-from-mame.html

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User Zone / Re: Fedora Linux Thread

« on: December 16, 2019, 12:16:51 pm »

This I know, thanks.

I'll bug Dan Horak about this, it might be known.

Actually, one last thought: any difference with

Code: [Select]

dnf install @workstation-product-environment

? Or any of the suggestions on https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/quick-docs/switching-desktop-environments/ ?

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User Zone / Re: Fedora Linux Thread

« on: December 15, 2019, 05:08:14 pm »

Replying to two posts:

Wayland or X? If it's Wayland, that might be your problem. See https://www.talospace.com/2019/11/fedora-31-mini-review-on-blackbird-and.html

Thanks. I will look into it. On the installer, I select "Fedora Workstation". After reboot, I got a blank screen without login window. So I can't choose X or Wayland. Even Ctrl + Alt + F2 doesn't work.

Have you tried installing Server, and then converting to Workstation? This comes up with a text boot, but then you can "startx" to go to GNOME. That's how this T2 is configured.

Still, I agree this sounds like a bug.

Classic excuses a question, or rather 2, in the article dedicated to Firefox 70 advised to tell Firefox that we are using Power 9, can you write the precise syntax of the command to give to get this?  Second question, I'm looking for an application to be able to read Blu-Ray discs correctly, VLC isn't currently on Power, do you know what you can use as an alternative?  Thanks

I mean to tell the compiler you're using POWER9. If you're just running a pre-built version, then it's however it was configured and assuming the autodetect works properly. (It should on the Fedora builds.)

However, VLC is definitely in the repositories. Make sure you have RPM Fusion connected up. https://rpmfusion.org/Configuration

BD playback may require some bits that Raptor may be nervous about us posting, so just read the Arch Linux documentation about that. https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Blu-ray

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User Zone / Re: Fedora Linux Thread

« on: December 15, 2019, 01:47:45 am »

Is there a bug in GNOME? If I select GNOME on the installer, I don't get a login screen after installation. I even can't switch to the console, mouse doesn't react.

Wayland or X? If it's Wayland, that might be your problem. See https://www.talospace.com/2019/11/fedora-31-mini-review-on-blackbird-and.html

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User Zone / Re: Fedora Linux Thread

« on: December 11, 2019, 05:25:46 pm »

I don't recall doing anything special, tbh. This is on a Talos II; I don't know if it's different for a Blackbird but IIRC it "just worked."

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Legacy POWER Hardware / Re: Old stuff survey

« on: December 10, 2019, 10:49:49 pm »

The most recent X 5000 has the Freescale P5020 or P 5040 but without Altivec and they are based on Power 8 if I remember correctly ...

POWER7, actually.  They implement Power ISA v2.06 (https://wiki.raptorcs.com/wiki/Power_ISA) and are BE only.

Not to be a (terrible) pedant, but while they do indeed implement (at least most of) the later ISA, the QorIQ e5500 microarchitecture doesn't have much in common with POWER7's. It's essentially a 64-bit e500 without the SPE crap and an FPU borrowed from the e600, itself an evolution of the 744x G4. The lack of AltiVec/VMX is a terrible omission, however, and limits its utility for general purpose computing. It's really an embedded part and meant for that application, and I have said in other places how much of a disservice I think running such CPUs in pricey desktops is to the Amiga community.

Confusingly the actual product page (https://www.nxp.com/products/processors-and-microcontrollers/power-architecture/qoriq-communication-processors/p-series/qoriq-p5020-and-p5010-64-bit-dual-and-single-core-communications-processors:P5020) refers to a "P5 platform" which I suspect is not POWER5, but I have no idea offhand what it is.  I do know the 4 core and up chips have a mystery management core of some sort, but then again with pre-OpenPOWER stuff the chips weren't exactly open source firmware across the board regardless of vendor.

P5 just means the Freescale-internal generation; it is not related in any way to IBM POWER generations.

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Blackbird / Re: Heatsink dual fan configuration

« on: December 10, 2019, 10:35:16 pm »

What do you mean, "dual fan configuration"? My Blackbird has four fans, two on each fan header (CPU and case) using a splitter. I can observe both pairs operating independently.

Or are you referring to some sort of dual HSF assembly?

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User Zone / Re: Fedora Linux Thread

« on: December 10, 2019, 10:32:08 pm »

I use https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/120/system-monitor/ personally. It's not perfect but it does give me temperature and fan rpm.

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Legacy POWER Hardware / Re: Old stuff survey

« on: December 09, 2019, 12:58:40 am »

Yes, BeOS 5.

If we're going to list Power Mac/Apple stuff, too, I'll just list the exceptional items and/or the items I use frequently:

Apple Network Server 500 (and 700, and a non-working prototype)
Quad G5
MDD G4 (with a dual 1.8GHz 7447A Sonnet upgrade)
PowerBook G4 DLSD
Mac mini G4/1.5
iBook G4/1.33
iMac G4/1.25
TiBook G4 867MHz
Power Mac 7300 (with an 800MHz 7455 Sonnet upgrade)
iMac G3 (with a 600MHz G3 Sonnet upgrade)
Twentieth Anniversary Mac (with a 500MHz G3 Sonnet upgrade)
PowerBook 1400 (with a 466MHz G3 Sonnet upgrade)
Sawtooth G4/450

Except for the ANS, which runs AIX, and the mini, which runs NetBSD, these machines all run MacOS 9 or Mac OS X (the DLSD runs 10.5 and everything else runs 10.4).

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User Zone / Re: Graphics Card install

« on: December 08, 2019, 04:25:25 pm »

I do read this board too, y'know.

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Legacy POWER Hardware / Old stuff survey

« on: December 08, 2019, 04:13:34 pm »

Since Raptor is offering this subforum, I'm wondering what old Power-based stuff people have hanging around. I'm sure a fair number of folks have Power Macs, and the number of Power Macs, PowerBooks, etc. in this house is too many to enumerate exactly, but what other old school Power hardware do you have?

IBM hardware:
2-way SMT-2 POWER6 (Type 8203-E4A), which runs Floodgap
IBM ThinkPad 860
IBM ThinkPad "800" Type 6020 (SCSI fuse got opened by a bad SCSI2SD; at some point imma repair this)

Be hardware:
BeBox dual 133MHz 603

Microsoft hardware:
Xbox 360 (one with mod chip, one without)

You can see most of these at http://www.floodgap.com/etc/machines.html and http://www.floodgap.com/retrobits/riscy/ . What's lurking in your machine room?