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Applications and Porting / Re: [GAMES] Raptor Call of the Shadows
« on: April 06, 2025, 06:13:19 pm »
Well, that's an appropriately named game.

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Yeah, same here. I think the PowerColor is the option to go for if you're either impatient or just don't have the money for a workstation card, I think W7700 is still a few hundred more used vs. the 9070 XT Reaper at retail price and that's for a card that's not as powerful and has the same amount of memory. W7800, which would be the real equivalent, is easily $1500 minimum used. There's also the 9070 Reaper and Hellhound, both of which are also 40mm, and we'll have to see about the 9060 and 60 XT, I would hope that they wouldn't reuse 340 W coolers for 150 W cards, but honestly, I can't be sure with the hardware industry the way it is.

At least it's PowerColor, a known and generally liked brand that we're stuck with, and not Asus or the like who are definitely known and less so liked, or a brand with neither quality.

As far as I know, there's already support for RDNA4 in amdgpu so it should hopefully be generally good to go, though until someone actually buys one to test it that's gonna be an unknown. Personally, I'm not looking to move on from my RX 570 for at minimum another 6 months, possibly a year. Just whenever the full RDNA4 lineup is out on the market and available reliably at retail price, and couldn't afford to even if I wanted at the moment anyway.

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Looking at the history of kernel performance changes in Fedora 37, I get the impression that no one does performance testing before releasing a kernel. The variability is high. It's a shame that Fedora developers don't see this.

I'm using Fedora right now and my impression is they just don't do testing in general, like for example shipping GIMP 3 with no way to go back without shipping one of its dependecies (babl 0.1.112, which looking at the tracker page still isn't released for Fedora).

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Operating Systems and Porting / Re: [NEWS] Fedora 42 Beta
« on: March 20, 2025, 08:15:23 am »
Honestly, for daily use, I don't really have a problem with Wayland. I used to have a lot more of them but it seems like there's been a lot of work done to make it a lot more seamless, but I'm also just a desktop user and any server stuff I do probably won't have a GUI running. I just wish there was something as good as TDE for it, Plasma is fine, just not as full featured and robust ime.

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GPU Compute / Accelerators / Re: AMD OpenCL / ROCm
« on: March 19, 2025, 11:36:29 am »
My takeaway is that if you want to do reasonably portable GPGPU stuff learn WebGPU/Vulkan compute shaders. You can do also GPGPU stuff with opengles/webgl with "transform feedbacks" but its extremely limited and a total nightmare, speaking from experience.

Now if only the Blender team would do that. I do hear they are for viewport and Eevee, but Cycles depends on HIP if you're not using CUDA or CPU. Though I suppose render times shouldn't be too bad on the CPU in this case...

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GPU Compute / Accelerators / Re: Intel Arc A770 - failed experiment
« on: March 19, 2025, 09:45:05 am »
From what I remember, Intel was pretty touchy at best about non-x86 architectures in general not too long ago, so I never really expected it to work. The fact there's any sort of hope for it is a nice bonus, though.

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Yeah, that's the one I would be looking at because it lets me use the x8 slot for an NVMe card. I was wondering if it might have some issues with the lower fan header, I guess let us know if you do get it, but it seems like if the RX 6800 fits (I remember you saying you tried it) it shouldn't be too much of an issue since either one is longer than that header.

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Applications and Porting / XenonRecomp
« on: March 03, 2025, 07:54:20 pm »
It's not for PowerPC (yet(, but this seems like a very interesting project to me. It currently depends on amd64 intrinsics, but a similar project, N64Recomp, doesn't, so I wonder if that's a hard cap. Apparently it's already building games for Linux, so DirectX isn't needed... I'd be interested in this because it'd be some of the most intensive games you could theoretically natively run, and it'd just feel neat to play something that was made for IBM + Radeon on IBM + Radeon.

https://github.com/hedge-dev/XenonRecomp

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User Zone / Re: Calling for gaming experiences
« on: February 27, 2025, 05:17:50 pm »
Something to look into: Command and Conquer series open-sourced.

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General CPU Discussion / Has anyone done the Phoronix suite recently?
« on: February 23, 2025, 06:18:10 pm »
I know that the Phoronix suite isn't the best benchmarking suite around, but it's at least an option. I went looking and all I could find were the 2019 results, has anyone done any more recent benchmarks to see how optimized things got in the last 6 years?

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We've just seen the Sapphire cards and they also appear to be 2-slot, at least one of them is even slightly less than that.
https://www.techpowerup.com/332343/sapphire-initiates-radeon-rx-9070-xt-9070-pure-series-marketing-campaign


Edit: apparently not. Nevermind me.

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I just sent them an email asking about that, they are indeed still in business and do still have stock at the moment.

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So I just watched this video by everyone's favorite 5'1" Canadian, and it has me daydreaming a little. Be warned, there will be copious amounts of unsupported claims and baseless optimism ahead.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8EXrxGByJJg
If chipsets can be flashed to support brand new hardware, I wonder if you could reverse engineer and flash an AM5 chipset like X770 to support an OpenPOWER or ARM processor down the line, even if it means erasing support for AMD ones. It could be a good budget option to get people into the ecosystem; even if it's not free, I think most of the people here are willing to bend that a little considering the widespread use of graphics cards. I know one of the main reasons there isn't more development is that the hardware is too expensive (the main reason I've heard people say they were interested in Blackbird but didn't plan on getting one), and while Raptor is I'm sure working on that and hopefully getting Talos III/BBII back down toward 2019 prices, for someone who cares less about how fully open their hardware is and cares more about simpler ISAs that run more efficiently or don't want to buy into the big duopoly (which admittedly I'm kind of more toward, not that end user ownership isn't important to me, just not an end-all-be-all), that might be interesting.
Now, yes, this would require getting new processors made, and that would be fairly pricey, particularly in whittling something desktop-class out of presumably licensed Power11 IP (or potentially backporting libreSoC innovations back into Microwatt and beefing it up from there)... but if someone could just flash their chipset on an AMD processor, take the cooler off, and drop in a PowerPC or ARM part, it might generate some interest. I'm sure the kind of person interested in this would be more than willing to drop $450 or even $500 on a drop-in replacement, should this be a realistic and viable thing in the first place, rather than spend $1600 on a whole new build. I mean, 7800X3D is about $450 and it's in many ways about on par with POWER9, some wins, some losses. And with the coming node freeze circa 2028 at 1nm, it might get fairly cheap to get it down to 5 or 3 nm by the circa 2030 date of arrival I would imagine it would have at the earliest.
Unlikely and a lot of money put in, sure, but it certainly seems like at present, X99/C612 upgrades of a similar sort to this (if staying within amd64) are very common in places like China, Russia, and Brazil. And I know that chipsets can be flashed to support new processors, the AMD 300 chipsets were. AM5 is shaping up to be a very common generation it seems considering the Intel 13th/14th blunder, so if this is doable and viable, it might be a good option to pick in terms of potential install base since there probably will be an AM6 circa 2030 or so, around the time that something like this would be out, and this would give at least some of those boards an even longer life. And, if you wanted, you could also use those same AM5 PowerPC CPUs in new boards with new chipsets for selling consumer-level PCs. That's something I'd been interested in if somewhat distantly, I have a vision for what prebuilt PowerPC... PCs could look like. That's absolutely cocky to say, I admit, but I do have that level of confidence in this one area... and a few others, but those are entirely unrelated. All I can say is it takes that old Commodore 64 slogan, "Welcome to the world of friendly computing", entirely seriously.

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It was skeptical at first that it could be made and sold for less than $500, but I think my estimates on die costs being $250 was a little too pessimistic, doing rough math on my own with the 390mm die area and $18,000 N4 wafer price and the knowledge that being a lower tier part means potentially better wafer utilization if they're still making them the same as they did the last gen, I think circa $130 could be a more accurate estimate on die cost, and with this being meant to be midrange and considered a 7-tier part, I would expect it to be more expensive than but generally fall around 7700 XT pricing, so I could see them pice it anywhere from $450 to $500. I think $429 would be the thing that would make it an autobuy for me, $500 or more and I start considering waiting to see if UDNA will have something comparable, and if not, then get it cheap after all the discounts over time (or secondhand).

Of course, its only competition for me being $3,000 means they could price it $1,000 and I'd still be better off with it, but that would absolutely be a mistake I might still skip regardless out of indignation. I'm still happy with the RX 570 and want to make the way too much I spent on it worth it; the only reason I'm thinking of upgrading is for RT.

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Firmware / Re: Messing with WOF Tables
« on: February 01, 2025, 06:58:59 pm »
Interesting, and that seems fair enough. Would you say there's a noticeable performance difference before and after, even if it's not enough to make it worthwhile? My case does have a bit more cooling capacity and internal volume so I have a little more headroom on heat, I'll still see how far undervolting gets me.

And yeah, the halved memory bandwidth does kind of hurt, but it seems like it's still on par with 7800X3D and such, so silver linings?

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