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MauryG5

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Unexpected Surprise, Debian 12 Bookworm
« on: April 22, 2023, 05:00:16 pm »
Good evening guys, today while I was regularly using my Power System with Debian 11.6, I receive a classic notification of various updates and when I go to open the update package manager, I find the beauty fi 2078 updates... I tell myself damn what is it ' happened, maybe they updated Debian to 11.7 and instead I find myself with Debian 12... I didn't even know it was in circulation, I had understood that it would come out towards the end of the year but apparently it's not like that if now I'm writing from Debian 12... Honestly I didn't expect it, it has Gnome 3.43.4 and it seems to work very well and fluidly. The appearance is very reminiscent of Fedora with Gnome 3.40 and therefore the most used application bar is at the bottom and not on the sides. At the moment it seems to work quite well, it has also updated the Kernel to version 6.1 and therefore now the Kernel has a good recent version as well. I'll try to test everything these days, I don't know why maybe yesterday since I entered a repository that I saw on the site, it's probably the one that made me download this update because I don't think it's officially available yet for everyone. I just wanted to install Corectr and instead I have the impression of having done much more without wanting to... Gnome's fluidity is very reminiscent of the excellent one of Ubuntu with Gnome 3.4.X, they seem to be very similar and let's say it is what Fedora should have been when it passed to the new version 40 and which instead was not... Obviously all the various basic applications have also been updated such as Libreoffice for example which is now in version 7.4. All in all, an unexpected surprise...

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Re: Unexpected Surprise, Debian 12 Bookworm
« Reply #1 on: April 23, 2023, 01:15:14 pm »
It's not really a surprise. The current state auf Debian 12 is "testing".
https://www.debian.org/releases/bookworm/

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Re: Unexpected Surprise, Debian 12 Bookworm
« Reply #2 on: April 23, 2023, 04:28:09 pm »
Friend MPC for me it was because I didn't expect to find myself now with version 12, I understood that I would have seen it later than now. I also really appreciated how it behaves because since version 11, the Debian team has done a really good job and now their Power distro is running really well. Since I switched to Debian I haven't been taken back and then seeing the regressions that regularly afflict Fedora well, I'm honestly more and more happy to have switched to Debian! At the same time, I think it is useless to continue using Fedora on Power, obviously my opinion, but the situation that that distro has experienced since it was updated to Gnome 3.4.X and all the rest around it is really embarrassing. I see that several users here continue to use it and I don't quite understand why, ok maybe you want to try it out but guys, it hasn't been going for years now, you understand that Power doesn't have enough support and therefore it's not good, not very usable and not very handsome. It just doesn't work, let's deal with it and go with distros that deserve more...

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Re: Unexpected Surprise, Debian 12 Bookworm
« Reply #3 on: April 25, 2023, 03:12:38 pm »
Pleased to learn that Debian 12 already works well. I stay at version 11 at the moment but of course I will upgrade when it will be official (stable).

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Re: Unexpected Surprise, Debian 12 Bookworm
« Reply #4 on: April 25, 2023, 04:41:32 pm »
I can tell you that even now it performs very well, Debian's reputation for its proverbial stability is not denied even in this version not yet officially released and unlike Fedora which often regresses, Debian continues to improve.  I am very satisfied with how it performs on Power, very satisfied indeed congratulations to the Debian team for the excellent work done also for our beloved architecture.

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Re: Unexpected Surprise, Debian 12 Bookworm
« Reply #5 on: May 01, 2023, 03:21:33 pm »
Friends of the Power community, I have to report the first problem I'm having after a few days of using Debian 12. The distro itself works very well and takes advantage of the new Gnome features and everything else, only I'm noticing that at least currently , maybe because it's not the definitive release yet, it doesn't digest Kernels after 6.1.x. At the time of the switch from 11.6, I had installed version 6.2.10 compiled by me and everything was fine. Since I updated to version 12, 6.2.10 has stopped working. I thought it was due to the failure of my Kernel, sometimes it can happen that a Kernel fails and in fact I always keep one or two more in reserve. Only that I also tried to compile version 6.2.13 and same problem, version 6.3.1 just released but the problem persists. Then I understood that the problem is not in the Kernel but in Debian 12. Practically towards the end of the upload, as soon as he has to change from internal AST GPU to AMD GPU, it freezes and won't start and I have to restart. So I hope that the problem will be resolved with the definitive version because I would be very sorry not to be able to use the most updated Kernels that I have been compiling and installing for quite some time now... I hope that the final version it will come out in June it doesn't have this problem.