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Operating Systems and Porting / Re: Investigating switch to Void or Fedora
« on: December 30, 2021, 10:54:50 pm »
(and if you wanted Fedora but with less churn, there's always CentOS Stream)

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Operating Systems and Porting / Re: Investigating switch to Void or Fedora
« on: December 30, 2021, 10:50:04 pm »
I think Void works well. q66 is around, he can say more about the future of it and the support infrastructure.

As far as Fedora, I'm typing this in Fedora. The biggest annoyance about it is the churn because new-GNOME always breaks something. If you use KDE or some other DE this is less of a problem.

For my money either is viable. I'm sorry to hear about the problems you're having with Debian.

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Legacy POWER Hardware / Re: Old stuff survey
« on: December 27, 2021, 05:22:14 pm »
Maybe a Sandpoint system?

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Legacy POWER Hardware / Re: Old stuff survey
« on: December 20, 2021, 12:29:07 pm »
Interesting. Do you know the CPU, or even the model number? I know about the Motorola-branded desktops and servers, but didn't know Freescale branded any.

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General Discussion / Re: Learning POWER9 assembly
« on: December 16, 2021, 10:37:53 am »
I think that's the same bug. I don't encounter it on Fedora. Maybe it's Ubuntu-specific.

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General Discussion / Re: Learning POWER9 assembly
« on: December 15, 2021, 10:07:36 pm »
Well, what's the exact problem? You can certainly post a report on Bugzilla but they'd probably appreciate it being triaged first.

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Legacy POWER Hardware / Re: Old stuff survey
« on: December 15, 2021, 10:05:59 pm »
Were they actually Freescale-branded??

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Applications and Porting / Re: Clion, VSCode, IDE options?
« on: December 13, 2021, 06:29:37 pm »
Eclipse and IntelliJ work fine. Haven't tried VSCode.

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General Discussion / Re: Learning POWER9 assembly
« on: December 13, 2021, 06:27:17 pm »
I don't really want to be in the business of making a Power-specific Firefox long term (I did that for over a decade with TenFourFox and it's a pain); I'd rather have a build that distros can pick up. The aim with the JIT is to do just that. There will necessarily be a separate branch for a bit while the code stabilizes but the goal is not to have a fork.

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Initiatives like how?

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General Discussion / Re: Learning POWER9 assembly
« on: December 07, 2021, 11:09:39 am »
Vectors are still "limited" to 128 bit, though I would also argue that the efficiency improvements with 256 and 512 bit vectors are more questionable. A good scalar system is what Power ISA needed, and VSX is a big improvement (no more spilling to memory to exchange between FP registers and integer registers, for example). I use it heavily in the Firefox JIT.

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General Discussion / Re: Learning POWER9 assembly
« on: December 06, 2021, 08:10:10 pm »
Almost all, but not every single instruction, of the PowerPC instruction set is in Power ISA. Obviously 601-specific instructions didn't make it past the 603, but also a couple oddballs like mcrxr aren't in Power ISA (instead there is, more recently, mcrxrx), and there are differences in cache line which affects some instructions like dcbz. These were also issues on the G5, which is more POWER4 than it is PowerPC. In general, however, the vast majority of user-level code will translate to the extent it is 64-bit aware.

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Applications and Porting / Re: Proton on Power
« on: November 28, 2021, 12:17:18 pm »
At its core, Proton is a heavily jumped-up Wine. Wine is not an emulator, so it won't help us directly. It might be useful to be rolled into something like Hangover (which is Wine + QEMU) but that work wouldn't be trivial.

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Operating Systems and Porting / Re: [NEWS] Fedora 35 is out folks
« on: November 25, 2021, 10:50:06 pm »
The performance problem is indeed libgraphene again: the fix seems present in Fedora's sources but it doesn't stick. I rebuilt it and the performance regression is largely gone. Here's a binary for those who want it: https://github.com/ebassi/graphene/pull/233#issuecomment-979687134

Still other F34 regressions are still present. It basically works, though. https://www.talospace.com/2021/11/fedora-35-mini-review-on-blackbird-and.html

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It's pretty much time dependence. My day job is ... different.

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