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General Discussion / Re: AMD RX 6900 XT from Sapphire NITRO [WIP]
« on: March 15, 2021, 04:12:38 am »

Are you using Xorg or Wayland?

It is a good idea to try with both

Have you contacted the amdgpu developers to make a bug report?

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General Discussion / Re: AMD RX 6900 XT from Sapphire NITRO [WIP]
« on: March 09, 2021, 07:51:38 am »

As you are using the latest Fedora I suspect you have the latest dependencies, nonetheless, can you confirm you checked the version of:


amd firmware (maybe take directly from Git and copy into your system /lib directory)
https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/firmware/linux-firmware.git

mesa

Xorg or Wayland?  Try both


Maybe we need to develop a small reporting script that people can use to build a comprehensive report of each GPU test, all dependency versions, checksums, logs, key config values, kernel config, etc


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It looks like retailers are building combined Ryzen + RX 6800 XT systems with OEM parts and you have to buy the whole system instead of buying the GPU alone.

Has anybody else noticed this trend or been able to get the GPU standalone for a POWER9 system?

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General OpenPOWER Discussion / Re: News?
« on: March 06, 2021, 11:21:40 am »
When the new Blackbird is available I'll be happy to update my blog about it

I suspect each user has different priorities:

- for some users the GPU width is the biggest issue

- for other users the CPU core limit is the biggest issue

I suspect fewer people will be worried about the 2 memory channel issue but as part of the overall picture, it swayed me towards the bigger boards.

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There is at least one support request open with Zoom about this.

Can anybody else confirm either you have the problem too, or it works fine on your system?

Please also share the Firefox build (e.g. Debian, Fedora, version number, ...)

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I think it is good to have both options too, I'm not anti-64k by any means

On the other hand, the reality is that most developers in the Linux world, developers of device drivers and GPU manufacturers are only testing their products on systems with a 4k page size.  If the developers at AMD and NVIDIA include some ppc64le hardware in their test routines before a release then they are unlikely to release code that completely fails, as is the case right now.

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In some cases, I think the build script (e.g. a configure script or Makefile) might call a function like "getconf(PAGESIZE)" and it saves the result

This is not good behavior but I think there are some packages like this but not very many

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Thanks, even if you can offer hints for other people to debug it would be very welcome

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Personally, I'm curious about the possibilities with 64k but I think the platform will get more momentum with 4k over the next 2-3 years.  Any way to offer both would be good.

Notice that:

a) 4k kernel needs to be in the installer ISO image, if you build a kernel with Copr, you need to build an installer image too

b) all packages need to be recompiled using the 4k kernel, although I suspect less than 1% of packages will be sensitive to page size, doing a full rebuild is the only way to be sure

If anybody can add details to the thread in Fedora devel that is the best place to discuss it now

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Applications and Porting / Zoom - errors about audio, video not supported
« on: February 16, 2021, 04:21:51 pm »

Zoom has test site at https://zoom.us/test

It always gives an error "Your browser does not support using the computer's audio device"

Looking at the JavaScript web console, there are some messages like this

Code: [Select]
Uncaught TypeError: i.a.sendSocket is not a function
    O https://st1.zoom.us/web_client/6sh2md/js/webclient.min.js:1
    h https://st1.zoom.us/web_client/6sh2md/js/webclient.min.js:1
    Lodash 3

One person suggested bugs with slow download of resources but I'm on gigabit fibre.  An x86 laptop on the same fibre connection does not give the problem.  This issue could be a red herring.

Both laptop and Talos II are running Firefox 78.7 ESR

One difference I notice: the Talos II always shows the captcha, the laptop always bypasses the captcha

Does anybody have any insights into this or workarounds?

Will a newer Firefox build fix it?

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I'm interested in getting funding for projects on ppc64le and as part of that, I'd be happy to budget for a lab machine and make it available publicly.  Sometimes I would be testing different operating systems or kernels so it wouldn't be available continuously.

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The change to 4k page size has now been proposed for Fedora 35

There is a discussion thread on the Fedora devel mailing list

If you have any feedback please contribute both on the mailing list and the change wiki

Even if you don't support the change, please feel free to contribute ideas to help make 64k more painless, I already put a few ideas in the thread

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There is a test site at https://zoom.us/test

I found it working from Debian / Firefox 78 on an x86 system

Using Debian / Firefox 78 on ppc64le, it gives the error about audio not being supported

I installed the User-Agent switcher plugin on the ppc64le system and tried changing the UA string to include x86_64, pretending to be x86.  This didn't work.

If JavaScript code checks the User-Agent (UA) string, does the User-Agent switcher plugin intervene correctly?

Is there anything else Zoom could be checking?

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Operating Systems and Porting / Re: kernel config: page size 4k vs 64k
« on: February 03, 2021, 03:05:21 pm »

For POWER9, are you reporting the speed on a 4k kernel of a 64k kernel?

The i5 will have 4k kernel

How many memory channels on each system?

Do you watch the load on the CPU cores, for example, using top (press 1) or the GNOME System Monitor?  Does the test only use 1 core or does it use all available cores?

Notice that the POWER9 architecture is faster for tasks that can be split between all the cores.  Some applications only run on a single core.

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