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Software => Operating Systems and Porting => Topic started by: tle on April 27, 2021, 09:55:32 am
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More info at https://fedoramagazine.org/announcing-fedora-34/
I have upgrade my Blackbird (with AMD R9 Nano GPU) from F33 to F34 successfully.
Everything works as expected though the animation of gnome-shell is sluggish.
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I'll be giving this a spin in a week or two. Blackbird first, then T2.
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Hi guys, today I came back late and I have not even turned on the Power System, tomorrow I will see if I can get there and I also update one of the 2 hardisks. But I do not understand what this thing means of the slowness of gnome, he has never suffered from these problems, what happened, did they not make the optimizations that were needed? Now who should take more care of the Power version? Everything is very strange, I have to try it myself and see how it works for me with the RX 5700 XT ...
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Hi guys, today I came back late and I have not even turned on the Power System, tomorrow I will see if I can get there and I also update one of the 2 hardisks. But I do not understand what this thing means of the slowness of gnome, he has never suffered from these problems, what happened, did they not make the optimizations that were needed? Now who should take more care of the Power version? Everything is very strange, I have to try it myself and see how it works for me with the RX 5700 XT ...
I think somehow amdgpu plays nice with 5700XT. However for my R9 Nano, it’s subpar performance
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More info at https://fedoramagazine.org/announcing-fedora-34/
I have upgrade my Blackbird (with AMD R9 Nano GPU) from F33 to F34 successfully.
Everything works as expected though the animation of gnome-shell is sluggish.
Updated. In the beginnig everything looked different and a few issues till I found out that I was logging in using Cinnamon and not KDE, as I used to before upgrading. Now everything looks fine.
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Guys good evening, sorry but I have a problem with updating to Fedora 34. I don't understand why there seems to be a conflict with the latest version of Chromium, 87. This is the screen it gives me. Do you know how to solve? Thanks always ...
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Guys good evening, sorry but I have a problem with updating to Fedora 34. I don't understand why there seems to be a conflict with the latest version of Chromium, 87. This is the screen it gives me. Do you know how to solve? Thanks always ...
Could you please uninstall Chrome 87 then re-trying the full F34 upgrade? Once you are in F34, you could install Chrome again
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Hi TLE, I had thought of this too but I was hoping there was an alternative to avoid it. Ok I will do this, I will uninstall Chromium 87 for a moment. To be sure I ask you, is it enough to use the classic "sudo dnf remove Chromium-browser-stable", or do you need something else? Thank you
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Hi TLE, I had thought of this too but I was hoping there was an alternative to avoid it. Ok I will do this, I will uninstall Chromium 87 for a moment. To be sure I ask you, is it enough to use the classic "sudo dnf remove Chromium-browser-stable", or do you need something else? Thank you
Yup, that command should do the job
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All done TLE, I uninstalled Chromium and at that point I was able to update Fedora. Now I will do some tests, from the first tests it seems that it is quite fluid, you can see that gnome 40 is a bit heavy in fact but in my case it is fine in any case and does not seem to suffer from slowdowns ... I will continue to test all the settle for a while ...
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Guys then, I'm testing Fedora 34 a bit. I inform you that even for me with the RX 5700 XT, gnome is slow but at this point I deduce that the fault is not absolutely our graphics cards but the lousy optimization that this programmers have once done it and at the same time I understand well why Ubuntu will not use this version of Gnome for its next release. It literally sucks. In fact, I only updated one of the 2 hardisks, for the other I will wait for them to optimize everything ...
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guys i'm seeing some videos on youtube, related to Fedora 34 and i'm seeing that the x86 version doesn't have the fluidity problems that we encounter instead ... Unfortunately this time they did a bad job on Power and the results are these. I hope that it will be reported as soon as possible and that they do some updates to fix it because it really sucks when you enter the applications ...
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guys i'm seeing some videos on youtube, related to Fedora 34 and i'm seeing that the x86 version doesn't have the fluidity problems that we encounter instead ... Unfortunately this time they did a bad job on Power and the results are these. I hope that it will be reported as soon as possible and that they do some updates to fix it because it really sucks when you enter the applications ...
Hey Maury, there is something wrong with F34 video drivers, even on x86. I've updated my Dell notebook from F33 to F34 and since then I cannot change the resolution (fixed at 1920x1080) and the second monitor is somehow related to the notebook display, I mean the zoom (%) applied to the note monitor affects the zoom in the external monitor (also Dell) and I had to play a bit until I could restore the previous setting. Now, with the Blackbird, when I open the display settings I see just 4 options for resolution, among them just one 16x9 (1920x1080).
PS: on the Blackbird I'm using the BMC HDMI output.
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Hi CCHINICZ, the resolution you see now from Blackbird's HDMI output should be normal as you can't go beyond 1920 * 1080 with the integrated GPU. With the 5700 XT I always have as many resolutions to draw from as is normal. As for the problems on X86 you are talking about, I don't know specifically what they are but I have seen that at least on X86 the graphical interface runs well, smooth and fast without jerks. With us, on the other hand, it literally sucks as you can all see. They have to fix the Gnome 40 because it is currently really bad ... I am amazed by the Fedora / RedHat team who should now theoretically take care of the Power versions a little more ...
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Guys, about the Kernel 5.11.16 of Fedora 34, our friend TLE said that now it works with the AMD GPU nano even with pages set to 64K. To me personally, with 5700 does not work exactly as it did not work before, nothing has changed from this point and I continue to use my custom kernel in version 5.12 rc1 and as soon as 5.13 comes out I'll make a version tailored for me ...
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Guys, about the Kernel 5.11.16 of Fedora 34, our friend TLE said that now it works with the AMD GPU nano even with pages set to 64K. To me personally, with 5700 does not work exactly as it did not work before, nothing has changed from this point and I continue to use my custom kernel in version 5.12 rc1 and as soon as 5.13 comes out I'll make a version tailored for me ...
It sucks that one version bump things could go bonker all over again. Oh well at least 5.12 is now officially out, you should give that a go
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guys i'm seeing some videos on youtube, related to Fedora 34 and i'm seeing that the x86 version doesn't have the fluidity problems that we encounter instead ... Unfortunately this time they did a bad job on Power and the results are these. I hope that it will be reported as soon as possible and that they do some updates to fix it because it really sucks when you enter the applications ...
Hey Maury, there is something wrong with F34 video drivers, even on x86. I've updated my Dell notebook from F33 to F34 and since then I cannot change the resolution (fixed at 1920x1080) and the second monitor is somehow related to the notebook display, I mean the zoom (%) applied to the note monitor affects the zoom in the external monitor (also Dell) and I had to play a bit until I could restore the previous setting. Now, with the Blackbird, when I open the display settings I see just 4 options for resolution, among them just one 16x9 (1920x1080).
PS: on the Blackbird I'm using the BMC HDMI output.
Intriguing. On my x86_64 Lenovo X1 Carbon Gen 7 I don't run into this bug. However I could confirm I do get this issue with the AST 2500 onboard graphic, perhaps you should lodge a ticket with Fedora
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hi Tle, yes I think we should write to the developers to point this out because this gnome 40 is really bad, too jerky on Power and video cards have nothing to do with it ...
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hi Tle, yes I think we should write to the developers to point this out because this gnome 40 is really bad, too jerky on Power and video cards have nothing to do with it ...
As expected, it would take another major release to iron out all rough edges. Please report it to the GNOME Bugzilla with Profiler reports (using Sysprof tool)
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After using F34 for one week I can say its stable on Powerpc, as the previous versions I'd used (F32/33) before on the Blackbird.
I cannot say the same about x86. In one week it froze twice on a Dell Latitude notebook (known to be "Linux friendly"). The background becomes black&white and I have to force shut down pushing the power on/off button.
I have the same environment on both Power and x86: F34, KDE and the same applications.
It seems like F34 was behind the schedule and was officially launched while still in test. I hope it'll be fixed soon with kernel updates.
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Even if it is stable, the Gnome is slow and in the choice of applications it jerks if you notice and not good for a desktop interface today ... They have to thoroughly review the general fluidity because they have not taken care of it at all this time unfortunately ... In my opinion from this point of view the Ubuntu team are ahead of everyone, the Gnome 3.38 when you have a graphics card is great, fluid and perfect at all times and it is a pleasure to use it ... They said that do not use version 40 on Ubuntu, in my opinion there is still something wrong, unripe and maybe it's partly the cause of these problems I don't know. The fact is that they still don't use Gnome 40 on Ubuntu 21.04 ...
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I tried upgrading the Blackbird the other day, and it wanted to downgrade a few packages, which seemed surprising.
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Hi guys, I wanted to report a nice bug in Fedora 34, I already wrote it in the comments of the review that the friend ClassicHas did on his Talospace. With Gnome 40, the audio volume when you are on a dedicated sound card as I am, that is with the RME, is at 0 and if you try to raise it back to 0 ... If you put internal audio on the motherboard then it works but if put the dedicated sound card no longer works. I also noticed that in the XFCE environment all this does not happen and works smoothly, so the problem is always Gnome 40, unfortunately it has many critical issues that need to be fixed ... :(
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Guys I inform you that with the help of Dan from the Fedora Project, whom I thank again, I was able to solve the problem of the audio bug on Fedora 34 that prevented me from turning up the volume. The problem is what I had suspected for some time, the new Pipewire audio management software, which causes this nasty bug for those who use a dedicated internal sound card. I performed the little procedure on the Fedora Wiki which makes me reinstall Pulse audio and delete Pipewire and the system is back to working normally. I already told Dan that he said that as soon as he got my feedback he would inform the Pipewire team.
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Guys I inform you that with the help of Dan from the Fedora Project, whom I thank again, I was able to solve the problem of the audio bug on Fedora 34 that prevented me from turning up the volume. The problem is what I had suspected for some time, the new Pipewire audio management software, which causes this nasty bug for those who use a dedicated internal sound card. I performed the little procedure on the Fedora Wiki which makes me reinstall Pulse audio and delete Pipewire and the system is back to working normally. I already told Dan that he said that as soon as he got my feedback he would inform the Pipewire team.
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Guys I inform you that with the help of Dan from the Fedora Project, whom I thank again, I was able to solve the problem of the audio bug on Fedora 34 that prevented me from turning up the volume. The problem is what I had suspected for some time, the new Pipewire audio management software, which causes this nasty bug for those who use a dedicated internal sound card. I performed the little procedure on the Fedora Wiki which makes me reinstall Pulse audio and delete Pipewire and the system is back to working normally. I already told Dan that he said that as soon as he got my feedback he would inform the Pipewire team.
Could you please let me know the URL of the wiki?
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Here is the link that Dan from the Fedora Project team pointed out to me. https: //fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/DefaultPipeWire