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Title: [NEWS] Fedora 33 is out
Post by: tle on October 05, 2020, 11:09:26 pm
Source: https://fedoramagazine.org/announcing-fedora-33/

I tested it on my blackbird on the last weekend. Good news:

* Anaconda installer for the Workstation variant works out of the box
* GNOME Softwares 3.38 now works correctly - YAY!
* GNOME /w Xorg sometimes get sigfault with libc error, still unable how to re-produce it reliably yet
Title: Re: [NEWS] Fedora 33 BETA is out
Post by: MauryG5 on October 24, 2020, 11:59:55 am
Hi everyone, I read that day 27 of this month and so next week, Fedora 33 will be released in the final version. Do you know anything if the problem of Navi 10 and Nano graphic cards on Kernel has been finally solved? I'm not seeing any news about it yet and in the meantime the Kernel has arrived at 5.8.16 and I'm still not downloading it until I have sure news about how it works...
Title: Re: [NEWS] Fedora 33 BETA is out
Post by: tle on October 25, 2020, 09:09:42 am
I am still running crashed amdgpu module with kernel 5.8.16. You can give FC33 a go by installing the last known-working kernel RPM package of FC32 on it
Title: Re: [NEWS] Fedora 33 BETA is out
Post by: MauryG5 on October 26, 2020, 01:56:05 am
Hi TLE, unfortunately I have recently tried the 5.8.16 Kernel with Fedora 32 but it still doesn't work for me ... incredible I don't understand ....
Title: Re: [NEWS] Fedora 33 BETA is out
Post by: tle on October 27, 2020, 08:02:07 am
we could only hope that amdgpu core team would revisit our lodged tickets
Title: Re: [NEWS] Fedora 33 BETA is out
Post by: MauryG5 on October 27, 2020, 02:14:13 pm
I wrote to them again, I hope they read and do something, too long now we are plagued by this problem. From what I guess, even your Nano still suffers from the bug ... Today they released Fedora 33 as well apparently, in final version, I still haven't turned on the computer to see if it has arrived.
Title: Re: [NEWS] Fedora 33 is out
Post by: cchinicz on October 28, 2020, 02:20:21 am
Source: https://fedoramagazine.org/announcing-fedora-33/

I tested it on my blackbird on the last weekend. Good news:

* Anaconda installer for the Workstation variant works out of the box
* GNOME Softwares 3.38 now works correctly - YAY!
* GNOME /w Xorg sometimes get sigfault with libc error, still unable how to re-produce it reliably yet
Hi,

I've just upgraded (no GPU card, just plain vanila Blackbird). After the upgrade KDE reports 645 packages that need to be upgraded, I push the button "Install Updates"  and get a bunch of error messages (see below).

Then I open console and issue sudo dnf update (or upgrade) and get this response:
[claudio@localhost ~]$ sudo dnf upgrade
warning: Found bdb Packages database while attempting sqlite backend: using bdb backend.
warning: Found bdb Packages database while attempting sqlite backend: using bdb backend.
Last metadata expiration check: 1:02:10 ago on Wed 28 Oct 2020 08:11:07 AM IST.
Dependencies resolved.
Nothing to do.
Complete!

Any ideas of what is going on? how to fix this?

Thanks

Error messages:
Error running transaction: file /usr/bin/epiphany from install of epiphany-1:3.38.1-1.fc33.ppc64le conflicts with file from package epiphany-runtime-1:3.36.4-1.fc32.ppc64le
file /usr/lib64/epiphany/libephymain.so from install of epiphany-1:3.38.1-1.fc33.ppc64le conflicts with file from package epiphany-runtime-1:3.36.4-1.fc32.ppc64le
file /usr/lib64/epiphany/libephymisc.so from install of epiphany-1:3.38.1-1.fc33.ppc64le conflicts with file from package epiphany-runtime-1:3.36.4-1.fc32.ppc64le
file /usr/lib64/epiphany/libephysync.so from install of epiphany-1:3.38.1-1.fc33.ppc64le conflicts with file from package epiphany-runtime-1:3.36.4-1.fc32.ppc64le
file /usr/lib64/epiphany/web-process-extensions/libephywebprocessextension.so from install of epiphany-1:3.38.1-1.fc33.ppc64le conflicts with file from package epiphany-runtime-1:3.36.4-1.fc32.ppc64le
file /usr/libexec/epiphany/ephy-profile-migrator from install of epiphany-1:3.38.1-1.fc33.ppc64le conflicts with file from package epiphany-runtime-1:3.36.4-1.fc32.ppc64le
file /usr/share/glib-2.0/schemas/org.gnome.Epiphany.enums.xml from install of epiphany-1:3.38.1-1.fc33.ppc64le conflicts with file from package epiphany-runtime-1:3.36.4-1.fc32.ppc64le
file /usr/share/glib-2.0/schemas/org.gnome.epiphany.gschema.xml from install of epiphany-1:3.38.1-1.fc33.ppc64le conflicts with file from package epiphany-runtime-1:3.36.4-1.fc32.ppc64le
file /usr/share/man/man1/epiphany.1.gz from install of epiphany-1:3.38.1-1.fc33.ppc64le conflicts with file from package epiphany-runtime-1:3.36.4-1.fc32.ppc64le
Title: Re: [NEWS] Fedora 33 is out
Post by: cchinicz on October 28, 2020, 08:22:42 am
Hi Folks,

I'm desperate.. I found that other things got broken and I do not how to roll back.

Libre Office is broken and I tried to reinstall it but I'm getting this error:
Error: Transaction test error:
  file /usr/lib64/libreoffice/program/opengl/fadeBlackFragmentShader.glsl from install of libreoffice-ogltrans-1:6.4.7.2-1.fc32.ppc64le conflicts with file from package libreoffice-core-1:7.0.2.2-1.fc33.ppc64le

Any help is welcome.

Thanks
Title: Re: [NEWS] Fedora 33 is out
Post by: tle on October 28, 2020, 09:02:53 am
How did you upgrade? It's seems to me you still have orphaned packages of FC 32 which causes conflicts
Title: Re: [NEWS] Fedora 33 is out
Post by: cchinicz on October 28, 2020, 09:32:01 am
How did you upgrade? It's seems to me you still have orphaned packages of FC 32 which causes conflicts
Hi,

I issued these commands:
1. sudo dnf upgrade --refresh
2. sudo dnf install dnf-plugin-system-upgrade
3. sudo dnf system-upgrade download --releasever=33
4. sudo dnf system-upgrade reboot

Thanks
Title: Re: [NEWS] Fedora 33 is out
Post by: tle on October 28, 2020, 09:43:37 am
How about re-installing libreoffice? `sudo dnf remove libreoffice* && sudo dnf install libreoffice`?
Title: Re: [NEWS] Fedora 33 is out
Post by: cchinicz on October 28, 2020, 09:50:16 am
How about re-installing libreoffice? `sudo dnf remove libreoffice* && sudo dnf install libreoffice`?
Hey,

Worked! You saved my computer!! Thanks a lot!

What about the updates? Any ideas? as you wrote, there are conflicting versions preventing me to update the system/softwares.

Best Regards
Title: Re: [NEWS] Fedora 33 is out
Post by: ClassicHasClass on October 28, 2020, 05:10:34 pm
You can sometimes see this if somehow you managed to install a package twice (like if there was a crash and the transaction was partially committed). It should be safe to check this with something like `sudo dnf remove --duplicates`.
Title: Re: [NEWS] Fedora 33 is out
Post by: cchinicz on October 28, 2020, 10:36:21 pm
You can sometimes see this if somehow you managed to install a package twice (like if there was a crash and the transaction was partially committed). It should be safe to check this with something like `sudo dnf remove --duplicates`.
Hey Classic,

Did not work, a lot of "conflicting requests" as a result of the command. The error when updating still the same.

Any other ideas? any help is much appreciated.

Thanks
Title: Re: [NEWS] Fedora 33 is out
Post by: MauryG5 on October 29, 2020, 01:56:02 am
Hi guys, sorry but how come you had to uninstall and reinstall this or that package, usually the old package is not always replaced with the new one when doing updates?  But not only on Linux I speak but in general.  It seems strange to me such a problem ...
Title: Re: [NEWS] Fedora 33 is out
Post by: cchinicz on October 29, 2020, 03:55:15 am
Hi guys, sorry but how come you had to uninstall and reinstall this or that package, usually the old package is not always replaced with the new one when doing updates?  But not only on Linux I speak but in general.  It seems strange to me such a problem ...
Hey MauryG5,

I really do not know, but reinstalling fixed the issue with libre office.

What concerns me now is that I cannot apply updates because of the issue I report before (see below, I've copy/pasted here).

Any ideas how to fix the update issue?

Alternatively, how can I roll back to Fedora 32? I've searched but did not succeed. I'd better stay behind with F32 than with F33 which I cannot update.

Thanks

Error messages: (when updating)
Error running transaction: file /usr/bin/epiphany from install of epiphany-1:3.38.1-1.fc33.ppc64le conflicts with file from package epiphany-runtime-1:3.36.4-1.fc32.ppc64le
file /usr/lib64/epiphany/libephymain.so from install of epiphany-1:3.38.1-1.fc33.ppc64le conflicts with file from package epiphany-runtime-1:3.36.4-1.fc32.ppc64le
file /usr/lib64/epiphany/libephymisc.so from install of epiphany-1:3.38.1-1.fc33.ppc64le conflicts with file from package epiphany-runtime-1:3.36.4-1.fc32.ppc64le
file /usr/lib64/epiphany/libephysync.so from install of epiphany-1:3.38.1-1.fc33.ppc64le conflicts with file from package epiphany-runtime-1:3.36.4-1.fc32.ppc64le
file /usr/lib64/epiphany/web-process-extensions/libephywebprocessextension.so from install of epiphany-1:3.38.1-1.fc33.ppc64le conflicts with file from package epiphany-runtime-1:3.36.4-1.fc32.ppc64le
file /usr/libexec/epiphany/ephy-profile-migrator from install of epiphany-1:3.38.1-1.fc33.ppc64le conflicts with file from package epiphany-runtime-1:3.36.4-1.fc32.ppc64le
file /usr/share/glib-2.0/schemas/org.gnome.Epiphany.enums.xml from install of epiphany-1:3.38.1-1.fc33.ppc64le conflicts with file from package epiphany-runtime-1:3.36.4-1.fc32.ppc64le
file /usr/share/glib-2.0/schemas/org.gnome.epiphany.gschema.xml from install of epiphany-1:3.38.1-1.fc33.ppc64le conflicts with file from package epiphany-runtime-1:3.36.4-1.fc32.ppc64le
file /usr/share/man/man1/epiphany.1.gz from install of epiphany-1:3.38.1-1.fc33.ppc64le conflicts with file from package epiphany-runtime-1:3.36.4-1.fc32.ppc64le
Title: Re: [NEWS] Fedora 33 is out
Post by: cchinicz on October 29, 2020, 09:28:09 am
I found this https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/564600/how-to-downgrade-from-fedora-31-to-fedora-30

Can I safely use this procedure to downgrade to F32?

Appreciate any feed-back.
Title: Re: [NEWS] Fedora 33 is out
Post by: ClassicHasClass on October 29, 2020, 11:56:10 am
I wonder if you have a package installed that is a prereq but can't be updated itself. Is it all Epiphany (GNOME Web) packages?
Title: Re: [NEWS] Fedora 33 is out
Post by: cchinicz on October 29, 2020, 12:11:56 pm
I wonder if you have a package installed that is a prereq but can't be updated itself. Is it all Epiphany (GNOME Web) packages?
It seems so, but I'm not a Linux guy.
Title: Re: [NEWS] Fedora 33 is out
Post by: MauryG5 on October 29, 2020, 04:44:32 pm
Hi cchinicz, I hope you solve your problems soon because it is a pity not to be able to take advantage of the new Fedora update.
Hi TLE excuseme, but you also installed Fedora 33 if I'm not mistaken, what can you tell us, did you also encounter problems similar to those of your friend cchinicz, or did you go smoothly without problems? The kernel always has the usual bugs for me Navi right? Let us know your first impressions ...
Title: Re: [NEWS] Fedora 33 is out
Post by: cchinicz on October 30, 2020, 02:26:29 am
Hi cchinicz, I hope you solve your problems soon because it is a pity not to be able to take advantage of the new Fedora update.
Hi TLE excuseme, but you also installed Fedora 33 if I'm not mistaken, what can you tell us, did you also encounter problems similar to those of your friend cchinicz, or did you go smoothly without problems? The kernel always has the usual bugs for me Navi right? Let us know your first impressions ...
Hey MauryG5,

Your words inspired me.. I've remove epiphany package (I've searched and it is a web browser - I wont miss it...) and succeeded updating 700 packages.

Cheers
Title: Re: [NEWS] Fedora 33 is out
Post by: cchinicz on October 30, 2020, 02:34:23 am
I just wanted to share some thoughts.

I'm a non-technical user, just an enthusiast of technology who bought this fancy and somewhat exotic computer based on a different architecture. Besides playing around and trying to learn new things beyond WinTel, I mainly use my Blackbird for business (mail, office, chromium).

I believe I am not the only one who is at most a power user. I've just learned a lesson, the hard way: do not try to do what you see these guys talking about.

So, this is the message I wanted to convey. If you're like myself just a user, be carefull not to try everything you read here.

I wrote on another post about training. I think that if Raptor wants to make their products popular (which I do not know for sure, maybe their market is more specific, like Universities/Researchers)., they should help educate their customers about their products.

Thank you all who posted here and helped me overcome these issues.
Title: Re: [NEWS] Fedora 33 is out
Post by: MauryG5 on October 30, 2020, 07:53:44 am
Great job, so it was that browser that created all these conflicts for you in the end.  Perfect I'm happy for you, I too am a simple Power user but above all a great fan of this Power architecture that I believe is the best ever and has only been underestimated by the mass for various reasons.  I'll wait a few more days and then I'll upgrade to 33 too ...
Title: Re: [NEWS] Fedora 33 is out
Post by: ClassicHasClass on November 02, 2020, 10:56:56 am
Just so it's not all bad news here, I got my Blackbird on F33 last night, and will update the T2 tonight. The Blackbird seems to be working fine though it had a fairly vanilla install of F32.
Title: Re: [NEWS] Fedora 33 is out
Post by: MauryG5 on November 02, 2020, 12:56:31 pm
Hi Classic, yes I have also updated one of the 2 hard disks that I mounted on the Power system to Fedora 33. For now I have updated the one I use most for testing or the slowest mechanical one and everything went smoothly. The update was downloaded through the Fedora Software Market application and then I did all the installation and all this on Kernel 5.6.19 which unfortunately is currently the last one running on Navi 10 ...! I will test a few more days on this hardisk and then hopefully I will also update the Fedora SSD. The only thing I didn't understand and where are the animated wallpapers that change according to the time, I only see one background available in the predefined walpaper, I can't find anything else, maybe you have to download them from the official Fedora page ... In any case the thing that matters most to me now is to understand when it will be possible to reuse the new official Kernel with Navi 10 ...
Title: Re: [NEWS] Fedora 33 is out
Post by: manatails on February 21, 2021, 06:26:24 am
I'm trying to install Fedora 33 Workstation on my Blackbird but the system hangs in the middle of the install... what could be causing this?
Title: Re: [NEWS] Fedora 33 is out
Post by: ClassicHasClass on February 21, 2021, 10:52:08 am
What do you have installed in your system? On my vanilla Blackbird (RAM, SATA SSD and BD-ROM, BMC framebuffer), I've never had an issue with Fedora installation or upgrades, so it could be hardware.
Title: Re: [NEWS] Fedora 33 is out
Post by: tle on February 21, 2021, 09:24:52 pm
I'm trying to install Fedora 33 Workstation on my Blackbird but the system hangs in the middle of the install... what could be causing this?

I reckon you should remove all but the NVME or SSD then give the installation a go again
Title: Re: [NEWS] Fedora 33 is out
Post by: manatails on February 23, 2021, 11:24:22 am
I'm trying to install Fedora 33 Workstation on my Blackbird but the system hangs in the middle of the install... what could be causing this?

I reckon you should remove all but the NVME or SSD then give the installation a go again

Thanks, actually it seems to be the same problem that I mentioned in another topic, the graphics card doesn't seem to play along with 5.x kernel.
The installation goes through when I remove the graphics card from the system.