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General CPU Discussion / Re: The point about Power 10 currently

« on: January 03, 2022, 01:10:07 am »

Exactly friend Xlinder, the situation at the moment is this, we are in the full P9 period, he has reached a good level of maturity and therefore it is time to make the most of his skills.  For example, just look at Canonical which from this year will start with dedicated P9 support on its Ubuntu ... In the meantime, the most suitable P10 processors will arrive and you can then think about something new ... But it still takes time ... Patience and time to use to make good use of P9!

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Operating Systems and Porting / Re: [NEWS] Debian 11 is out

« on: December 31, 2021, 06:54:13 am »

Xlinder yes I know that it refers to an old post of yours but since he wrote on December 29th or 2 days ago, then I thought that his post was worth now since he wrote now and that's why I wrote my personal experience. .. If it solved perfect fine!

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Operating Systems and Porting / Re: [NEWS] Debian 11 is out

« on: December 30, 2021, 01:13:13 pm »

I have a hardisk with Debian 11 installed and I use it with my AMD Radeon 5700 XT Navi 10. Obviously I had to use a more recent Kernel than the 5.10 which is by default and I also had to update the firmware to be able to use the Navi 10 but once all this is done, it works quite well under the graphics card. As a Kernel I have compiled a 5.15.2 with 4K pages.

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Applications and Porting / Re: Chromium and Ungoogled Chromium DNF Repository

« on: December 23, 2021, 03:45:37 pm »

Ei TLE, we are in the Christmas period, now we hope you can get back to work on the Chromium code that we have been waiting for for a long time ... Give us some good news so please ...

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General CPU Discussion / Re: The point about Power 10 currently

« on: December 23, 2021, 07:03:34 am »

Well if you think about it, having the possibility of building a motherboard around a mid-range or low-end processor, all the costs to be incurred are considerably reduced and consequently it becomes accessible to us desktop users.  Currently the P10 is unthinkable, both in terms of costs but also in terms of spaces and exaggerated dimensions of the CPUs, which obviously are high-end and not suitable for us desktop users ...

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General Discussion / Re: Learning POWER9 assembly

« on: December 16, 2021, 03:40:42 pm »

Yes Classic, the problem is specific to the Ubuntu version, it seems that the security software that Ubuntu uses is in conflict with the Firefox bookmark and even trying to disable this Ubuntu security software, it still does not work the same ...

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General Discussion / Re: Learning POWER9 assembly

« on: December 16, 2021, 07:40:47 am »

No I'm talking about the problem that I had already exposed some time ago on the anomalies related to Ubuntu on Power.  Whenever you open Firefox on Ubuntu, it always tells you that the history is not working because there is some other part of Ubuntu that is using that file that Firefox needs to make the history work properly.  This thing has never been solved and the bad thing is that this problem only has Firefox on Ubuntu, in other distributions including Debian, it does not happen ... I tried to delete that file that Firefox recommends me to delete in the guide but unfortunately it continues to always do it ...

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General Discussion / Re: Learning POWER9 assembly

« on: December 14, 2021, 01:05:27 pm »

Yes, I understand what you mean, I made this hypothesis only to favor our build as much as possible, if it were specific it would have all the code optimized for us and would have even better performance but maybe already for how you are working, equally the final result is that of the version optimized for us. Instead as soon as possible, I need your advice since Firefox knows it better than anyone else in here perhaps, for an annoying problem that I can't solve and that afflicts the Ubuntu version and that no one has solved until now ... If you tell me where to write then to expose the problem you will be grateful ... Thanks

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General CPU Discussion / Re: The point about Power 10 currently

« on: December 10, 2021, 05:19:04 pm »

In fact, this is what I have been saying since the beginning, currently Power 10 cannot be used in any way in a home environment, even if it were all open source! They must first enrich the offer with the mid-range and low-range versions, then in that case there will certainly be a big difference!

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General Discussion / Re: Learning POWER9 assembly

« on: December 07, 2021, 01:34:20 pm »

Understood, so you think that basically it is not really an advantage that of X86 that has vectors at 256 or 512 from what I understand ... Do you think we will be able in the end to have Firefox without those limits that up to now this Browser has on Power also compared to Chromium? I see that unfortunately I still can't go to all the sites like I do on Chromium ... I think it would be nice, given the work you do with so much passion on Firefox, to be able to finally package a version specially dedicated to us of Power, maybe diversifying some colors of the logo, for example instead of orange, use the fire red which in my opinion would represent a Power version well ...

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General Discussion / Re: Learning POWER9 assembly

« on: December 07, 2021, 07:39:04 am »

I understand, so we have a good part of those instructions available, certainly those 601s would not even make sense to date, I think they are too dated by now and that's right in the end. The article I read a few years ago was correct so fine. What about floating point vector and compute units instead, has Intel really outdone us in this area or are we still the best with Alti Vec's direct successors?

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General Discussion / Re: Learning POWER9 assembly

« on: December 06, 2021, 02:48:25 pm »

Guys excuse some curiosity, I read some time ago that the PowerPc instructions have been incorporated into the most recent Power ISAs, so theoretically, the old instructions that IBM and Motorola created specifically for PowerPC, are now also usable on the new Power, right? I ask because I remember that when PowerPc was born from Power, it eliminated some instructions from Power, which they said at the time were useless for the home desktop environment and instead inserted instructions made specifically for Power PC in its place ... Another curiosity that I I ask is related to floating point computation units such as the VSX and the like, deriving from the legendary Altivec. Because some people say, for example I have read some of these comments on Phoronix, that the floating point compute units of the Power processors are poor compared especially to the X86 equivalents! I wonder is such a thing ever possible when it was PowerPC's Altivec at the time, he taught Intel how to make floating point computing units, much less performing up to the SS2 version ... I don't explain this what, indeed, should be one of Power's greatest strengths, especially with the evolution that certainly all these units have had over the years ...

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Operating Systems and Porting / Re: [NEWS] Debian 11 is out

« on: November 30, 2021, 05:43:06 am »

Yes, I understand everything, do not worry, in the meantime from the whole Power community you enjoy the fullest support and respect and I believe that nobody here denies it, so do what you feel like doing and don't give a damn about these useless people!  As for Debian 11 instead, I noticed that since I boot it with Kernel 5.15.2, it is no longer crashing on boot, maybe it's a 5.12.8 problem that has something that doesn't work well with Debian 11. With Ubuntu on the other hand when I used it didn't give me any problems.  In any case, I continue to monitor it to see if it continues to start without problems, if it does then I can say that the problem lies precisely in that version of Kernel.

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Applications and Porting / Re: Proton on Power

« on: November 29, 2021, 12:49:46 pm »

Yes, I know it normally does that work on X86 but I thought that if you could have the code available, you could also make a version for PPC64le but obviously you can't because it only works with X86, too bad ...

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Applications and Porting / Re: Proton on Power

« on: November 28, 2021, 03:27:19 pm »

So do you think it is difficult to be able to make a version of Proton for our architecture? They say it works very well in porting games from Windows to Linux, that's why I thought it was interesting as an application ...