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MauryG5:
Hello to the whole Oper Power community, for some time I have installed Ubuntu in one of my hard disks and immediately afterwards to use my RX 5700 XT Navi 10 card, I compiled a kernel specifically. Using Ubuntu and checking the various features with respect to Fedora and Debian, I realized that unfortunately this distribution has various criticalities. I had also noticed it when I just bought the Blackbird, I tried Ubuntu first and unfortunately I saw that these critical issues are still present and they are bothersome as well. Specifically, I refer to the Firefox bookmarks for example, only on Ubuntu this browser gives this perennial error, since I installed version 19.04 and now that we have reached 20.10, the problem persists. It says there is probably a problem with the security software that an Ubuntu does and therefore there is a conflict but how come they still haven't solved it after years? I also tried to do what the guide says, eliminating directories that he himself indicates but the problem persists. Another very strange thing is the connection to the network. The system is regularly connected to the network but the icon at the top right indicating the connection is partially cut off, for him it is as if there is no network, press the connect button but nothing happens, yet the system is regularly connected to the internet. Problem that has also existed for years and has never been solved by the Ubuntu team. Another anomaly resides in the numeric keypad, the numbers are inverted, instead of starting with the number 1 from the bottom left, it starts with the same from the top always to the left and therefore instead of the number 7. 7,8,9 become 1, 2,3 ... Another anomaly occurs when using the Gnome software center, Ubuntu does not have it by default like Debian or Fedora and so I downloaded it, when you try to install an application after selecting it, he puts waiting without ever starting to download ... Honestly it is a shame that it has all these critical issues because as an optimization it is perhaps the best on Power, it is more fluid even than Fedora at the moment ... a real shame, if anyone knows how to solve these critical issues would be a really good thing ...

cchinicz:

--- Quote from: MauryG5 on April 26, 2021, 06:49:33 am ---Hello to the whole Oper Power community, for some time I have installed Ubuntu in one of my hard disks and immediately afterwards to use my RX 5700 XT Navi 10 card, I compiled a kernel specifically. Using Ubuntu and checking the various features with respect to Fedora and Debian, I realized that unfortunately this distribution has various criticalities. I had also noticed it when I just bought the Blackbird, I tried Ubuntu first and unfortunately I saw that these critical issues are still present and they are bothersome as well. Specifically, I refer to the Firefox bookmarks for example, only on Ubuntu this browser gives this perennial error, since I installed version 19.04 and now that we have reached 20.10, the problem persists. It says there is probably a problem with the security software that an Ubuntu does and therefore there is a conflict but how come they still haven't solved it after years? I also tried to do what the guide says, eliminating directories that he himself indicates but the problem persists. Another very strange thing is the connection to the network. The system is regularly connected to the network but the icon at the top right indicating the connection is partially cut off, for him it is as if there is no network, press the connect button but nothing happens, yet the system is regularly connected to the internet. Problem that has also existed for years and has never been solved by the Ubuntu team. Another anomaly resides in the numeric keypad, the numbers are inverted, instead of starting with the number 1 from the bottom left, it starts with the same from the top always to the left and therefore instead of the number 7. 7,8,9 become 1, 2,3 ... Another anomaly occurs when using the Gnome software center, Ubuntu does not have it by default like Debian or Fedora and so I downloaded it, when you try to install an application after selecting it, he puts waiting without ever starting to download ... Honestly it is a shame that it has all these critical issues because as an optimization it is perhaps the best on Power, it is more fluid even than Fedora at the moment ... a real shame, if anyone knows how to solve these critical issues would be a really good thing ...

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Hey Maury, I use my Blackbird as a desktop.  I mean, browser (chromium and firefox), email client (thunderbird) and open office. I use it with Fedora and KDE Plasma. What difference would it make for a user like myself if the OS is Ubuntu, Debian or Fedora?

MauryG5:
The differences are there my friend, the distributions are not all the same, both for updates they have available and for any bugs present. I also use Fedora as the main S.O on Power because it is the best in my opinion. Except that I also wanted to have some alternatives every now and then I realized that as an optimization, Ubuntu is even better than Fedora and I wanted to use it without these annoying little problems that limit its use unfortunately ... Debian for its part is terribly old and stagnant, they haven't updated certain parts for a long time and I honestly don't understand why, now certain things like the desktop Gnome higher than version 3.30 that they use, have been tested for a long time, absurd that they continue to stay at that. Just as it is absurd that the Kernel remains anchored to version 4.19, ultra old too ...

MPC7500:

--- Quote from: cchinicz on April 26, 2021, 01:37:52 pm ---Hey Maury, I use my Blackbird as a desktop.  I mean, browser (chromium and firefox), email client (thunderbird) and open office. I use it with Fedora and KDE Plasma. What difference would it make for a user like myself if the OS is Ubuntu, Debian or Fedora?

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Here is a brief overview of the differences between distributions.

Distributions have different philosophies. This is also the reason why e.g. Debian uses older kernel versions.

One point that is not mentioned in the article are the repositories. The packages that are available on a distribution. At least from my point of view a big difference on ppc64le.

But all in all every distribution (Debian, Ubuntu, Fedora, CentOS, OpenSUSE, Devuan, Gentoo, Void) works very well on POWER.

MauryG5:
Yes MPC I do not say that they do not work well, indeed Ubuntu from the point of view of the fluidity and general movement of the whole system, is also superior to Fedora. I just don't understand why it must continue to have these critical issues that have not been resolved for years now apparently because I had already seen them identical in version 19.04 and all this seems a bit grotesque to me honestly. Maybe no one has made any bug reports and they have never seen anything, I don't know what else to think. As for Debian, it is not normal for me that we have to remain anchored to very old and outdated things, when the world of computers travels by itself at an impressive speed and that what came next is also tested well and works well so in my opinion there is no reason ...

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