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MauryG5:
I understand, then we are waiting for you to bring the latest patches and thus be able to have the new sources to compile ... Come on, we are with you!
MauryG5:
Guys, you have abandoned the development of Chromium on Power from what I see ... unfortunately everything has stopped for months ... If there were the sources I would have compiled it myself but unfortunately there is nothing beyond the version 87, a real shame because it is the browser that is best of all damn ... :-\
SiteAdmin:
Raptor may be willing to pick this up but since Google has refused to upstream the POWER support, and Chromium is not exactly a "typical" free software product, in the current economy this would have to be under some type of bounty system. Frankly, on our side if we're going to invest in a browser development project we'd probably pick Firefox over Chromium given Google's apparent public stance on owner control / individual data rights.
Our question is: is this something that would be palatable? It's a lot of work, so it'd have to be probably in the several thousand USD range (or, worse, significantly more depending on just how Google managed to break the builds in the interim), but if there are (say) a hundred or more Chromium users here that would come down to $100 or less a person. If it worked, we could even make it a subscription type development service; assuming the user numbers are even close to accurate, something like $50 annually and you all always have an up-to-date Chromium browser with builds for Debian / Fedora.
Thoughts welcome! 8)
MPC7500:
I wouldn't spend much effort into Chromium development. First, Google sucks. Second, Chromium is just fine, it works. I'm on version 93 or 94. But if you're on 70, 80 or 90 doesn't play a role.
But I'm willing to donate for Firefox improvements. To make it on par or surpass Chromium.
And I assume Mozilla is accepting upstream POWER support?
I'm pretty sure, in the long run it's better/ easier to support Firefox.
SiteAdmin:
--- Quote from: MPC7500 on November 12, 2021, 06:33:38 am ---I wouldn't spend much effort into Chromium development. First, Google sucks.
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That was never in any doubt. ;)
--- Quote from: MPC7500 on November 12, 2021, 06:33:38 am ---Second, Chromium is just fine, it works. I'm on version 93 or 94. But if you're on 70, 80 or 90 doesn't play a role.
But I'm willing to donate for Firefox improvements. To make it on par or surpass Chromium.
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That would be most welcome. We'll kick this around a bit on our side and figure out if / how to make that happen, and whether it makes more sense to e.g. try to directly fund Cameron or if it might make more sense to add some of our resources to his efforts (i.e. determine if he's time or cash limited right now on the Firefox port).
--- Quote from: MPC7500 on November 12, 2021, 06:33:38 am ---And I assume Mozilla is accepting upstream POWER support?
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Yes. Firefox's issues stem purely from performance problems in regard to the lack of JIT etc., and they are willing to accept patches.
--- Quote from: MPC7500 on November 12, 2021, 06:33:38 am ---I'm pretty sure, in the long run it's better/ easier to support Firefox.
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There is a bit of a marketshare (IE6-type) problem here, Chromium is all that many developers write for these days (right or wrong, this is just the way things are) and as a result it is still important to have Chromium support on POWER if it is to remain a viable desktop platform. That said, if Firefox works better and we can really hammer home the privacy aspects (e.g. get Mozilla to start changing some stances on e.g. DRM in the browser) there might be a way back from the brink.
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