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European logistics / delivery, warranty returns, etc
pocock:
This is definitely interesting news. Will you provide servers or only workstations?
Can people order the coolers now?
Will you provide any installation media to help people get around the 64k page size problem? I built my own Debian installer image with a 4k kernel but not everybody will be able to do that. I can share my ISO image if that is helpful. I didn't build one for Fedora 33 yet.
There are some other outstanding issues that will be irritating for workstation users, I've recently seen glitches in Gimp, Blender, Thunderbird and gstreamer. The complete absence of Qt WebEngine is a hassle because many things need it but on a positive front, I suspect most or all of those things will immediately start working after Qt WebEngine is fixed.
My overall impression is that none of these issues require months of work, most of them only require a few hours or days of developer time but apart from a few IBM bounties on BountySource (e.g. ffmpeg), nobody has stepped forward and offered funding for this work.
I don't write all this to complain, I write this because I know you put a lot of effort into the European distribution and it is really important that the people who buy in have a good first impression. Even if there is a roadmap with tentative dates for fixing the issues in this list it will be very reassuring to people.
I'm personally quite busy until the end of the year but I may have a couple of weeks in January or February that I could dedicate to full time development on this platform if there is any funding available.
mparnaudeau:
I still don't own a Power9 machine but I would like too ... That's great if it becomes easier to order for european people (I live in France).
@vikings.thum My first choice would be a BlackBird but ... will they be available in a near future?
@pocock Your feedback on user applications is very valuable. I was also looking for opportunities to work with Linux On POWER (as a freelancer) but I've always flet uncomfortable with BountySource, as we never know which bounty is really still open or not (with people saying "I'm working on that", with often weak descriptions of what has to be done, ...).
pocock:
I'm in Suisse Romande, so we might be neighbours.
Please see my blog about choosing between the Blackbird and the Talos II Lite. For many people, the Talos II Lite is a much better choice and only a little bit more expensive. You get to use a wider GPU, there is better cooling, 4 memory channels (instead of just 2 in Blackbird) and use of any POWER9 CPU (Blackbird limited to 8 cores). The cost difference is less than €150 + the bigger case.
mparnaudeau:
--- Quote from: pocock on November 09, 2020, 06:53:19 am ---I'm in Suisse Romande, so we might be neighbours.
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I confirm ... as I lived in the French Alps ;-)
And we share another thing: I am a Debian user.
--- Quote from: pocock ---Please see my blog about choosing between the Blackbird and the Talos II Lite. For many people, the Talos II Lite is a much better choice and only a little bit more expensive. You get to use a wider GPU, there is better cooling, 4 memory channels (instead of just 2 in Blackbird) and use of any POWER9 CPU (Blackbird limited to 8 cores). The cost difference is less than €150 + the bigger case.
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Thanks for information, I will look (again?) at it. That makes me reconsider by potential choice.
Note that I just want to avoid a huge case :-)
odalman:
--- Quote from: pocock on November 09, 2020, 06:53:19 am ---Please see my blog about choosing between the Blackbird and the Talos II Lite. For many people, the Talos II Lite is a much better choice and only a little bit more expensive. You get to use a wider GPU, there is better cooling, 4 memory channels (instead of just 2 in Blackbird) and use of any POWER9 CPU (Blackbird limited to 8 cores). The cost difference is less than €150 + the bigger case.
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I found noting about sound in your blog post.
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